'Pergamon' (1980)

owen · Post by **owen** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:05 pm

There was an album between Force Majeure and Tangram that didn't see the light of day till much later, right? Called 'Pergamon' or something like that.

was it an album that was actually scrapped for some reason? (if so, why?) And how does it compare to other TD albums of the era?

was Exit the first digital-synths TD album?

(I'm all questions, amn't I? Have to learn somewhere...)

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:12 pm

don't worry about it, i've asked numerous question here.

i'd believe that Exit was the first, but someone would have to confirm that. i don't know anything about technical stuff. Quichotte actually came out after Tangram. i think it was only a german release. it was recorded at the Palast Der Republik (pretty sure anyway). it was changed to Pergamon when it was released on other labels later on

Pergamon_PB · Post by **Pergamon_PB** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:54 am

Superb album, one of my favourites. Bought CD from Virgin Records years ago and it cost me £17.99!!!!

multivit72 · Post by **multivit72** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:32 pm

Hi Owen,

just in case you dont know that already, a plethora of information on the TD discography can be found here:
http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/voicesrc.htm

I bought Pergamon last year on ebay, nice record (Tangram is one of my fave TD albums, so I like the influences here)

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:26 pm

owen wrote:was it an album that was actually scrapped for some reason? (if so, why?) And how does it compare to other TD albums of the era?.

Pergamon was a live album recorded at the Plast der Republik in East Berlin. It was the first concert by a Western rock band in East Germany and Johannes Schmoelling's first show with the band. It was originally only released in East Germany on the Amiga Label under the name of Quichotte but later found a release on Virgin as Pergamon.

The music is split into two long tracks and shares several themes with Tangram. There's an extended guitar solo by Edgar, a keyboard solo by Johannes and some great sequencer work. To my ears it's sublime, almost on a par with Logos.

mikewp · Post by **mikewp** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:10 pm

It is a fine concert recording, one of my favorite TD albums. But the CD COULD be reissued with a more complete version of the show. There was a boot ( I forget which one) that had decent sound and added about 30 extra minutes. Great stuff - with the endless compilations and reissues, this one really cries out for me.

Well, it cries out to me anyway

goozer · Post by **goozer** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:10 pm

mikewp wrote:It is a fine concert recording, one of my favorite TD albums. But the CD COULD be reissued with a more complete version of the show. There was a boot ( I forget which one) that had decent sound and added about 30 extra minutes. Great stuff - with the endless compilations and reissues, this one really cries out for me.

Well, it cries out to me anyway

Too bad it's not really a recording of actual concert. Part One has been 'sweetened' in the studio, while Part Two was totally created there.

It's still a great album, and is indeed a forerunner of what was to come just two years later...

goozer

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:25 pm

goozer wrote:
mikewp wrote:It is a fine concert recording, one of my favorite TD albums. But the CD COULD be reissued with a more complete version of the show. There was a boot ( I forget which one) that had decent sound and added about 30 extra minutes. Great stuff - with the endless compilations and reissues, this one really cries out for me.

Well, it cries out to me anyway
Too bad it's not really a recording of actual concert. Part One has been 'sweetened' in the studio, while Part Two was totally created there.

It's still a great album, and is indeed a forerunner of what was to come just two years later...

goozer

Yep. I've read that quite a few times over the years. Doesn't bother me one little bit. It's still a great recording regardless of it's source.

alipaul · Post by **alipaul** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:05 pm

I think this is covered by Tree 17

hansx · Post by **hansx** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:29 pm

alipaul wrote:I think this is covered by Tree 17

Butnow weneed an official release of it. But that never won't seethe light, I fear.

alipaul · Post by **alipaul** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:03 pm

Hence the Tree release

Desert_Voyager · Post by **Desert_Voyager** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:03 pm

Pergamon part 2 is a favourite of mine, Edgar's guitar solo is colossal, the more you listen to the track, the more it pulls you into it, and I would like TD to do a complete remix of it

Marakesh · Post by **Marakesh** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:05 pm

Desert_Voyager wrote:Pergamon part 2 is a favourite of mine, Edgar's guitar solo is colossal, the more you listen to the track, the more it pulls you into it, and I would like TD to do a complete remix of it

Damn fine track, D_V, damn fine

Froesesque · Post by **Froesesque** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:10 pm

Desert_Voyager wrote:Pergamon part 2 is a favourite of mine, Edgar's guitar solo is colossal, the more you listen to the track, the more it pulls you into it, and I would like TD to do a complete remix of it

Yeah, I agree about the great guitar solo, but I always picture Chris and Johannes leaving the sequencers running and going for a cup of tea when Edgar starts the solo

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:29 pm

Desert_Voyager wrote:Pergamon part 2 is a favourite of mine, Edgar's guitar solo is colossal, the more you listen to the track, the more it pulls you into it, and I would like TD to do a complete remix of it

Great track. The transition from guitar solo to keyboard solo is just awesome.

Tangerine Dream

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