Rubycon reviewed

71 dB · Post by **71 dB** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:52 am

I heard finally Rubycon and I must say I am somewhat disappointed. The music is a bit monotonic (it develops very slowly so there are only few sections within one part). TD is still heavily in the ambient cosmic style of the Pink Years (I haven't heard Phaedra yet) and the pulsing rhythms aren't as sophisticated as on the following albums. Rubycon is dragging. Anyway, it's not bad or anything. The last 6 minutes of part 2 are beautiful. It's just not worth the hype for me. I wonder how Phaedra is...

Ricochet is superior to Rubycon. I feel Rubycon is just a prototype for the latter masterpiece.

Hobo · Post by **Hobo** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:46 pm

71 dB wrote:I heard finally Rubycon and I must say I am somewhat disappointed. The music is a bit monotonic (it develops very slowly so there are only few sections within one part). TD is still heavily in the ambient cosmic style of the Pink Years (I haven't heard Phaedra yet) and the pulsing rhythms aren't as sophisticated as on the following albums. Rubycon is dragging. Anyway, it's not bad or anything. The last 6 minutes of part 2 are beautiful. It's just not worth the hype for me. I wonder how Phaedra is...

Ricochet is superior to Rubycon. I feel Rubycon is just a prototype for the latter masterpiece.

If you're struggling with Rubycon, there's a good chance you'll find Phaedra drags a little. Personally, I think it's a timeless masterpiece and it's the album that marks the start of my love for TD. I'd urge you to give it a go, but don't expect another Ricochet.

billythefish · Post by **billythefish** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:01 pm

Hobo wrote:
71 dB wrote:I heard finally Rubycon and I must say I am somewhat disappointed. The music is a bit monotonic (it develops very slowly so there are only few sections within one part). TD is still heavily in the ambient cosmic style of the Pink Years (I haven't heard Phaedra yet) and the pulsing rhythms aren't as sophisticated as on the following albums. Rubycon is dragging. Anyway, it's not bad or anything. The last 6 minutes of part 2 are beautiful. It's just not worth the hype for me. I wonder how Phaedra is...

Ricochet is superior to Rubycon. I feel Rubycon is just a prototype for the latter masterpiece.
If you're struggling with Rubycon, there's a good chance you'll find Phaedra drags a little. Personally, I think it's a timeless masterpiece and it's the album that marks the start of my love for TD. I'd urge you to give it a go, but don't expect another Ricochet.

I remember moving from Poland onto Rubycon via Tangram, and not being that enamoured with Rubycon... it has massively grown on me though, particularly as I have grown older, so if you're like me, you need to give it lots more time...

71 dB · Post by **71 dB** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:33 pm

Hobo wrote:If you're struggling with Rubycon, there's a good chance you'll find Phaedra drags a little. Personally, I think it's a timeless masterpiece and it's the album that marks the start of my love for TD. I'd urge you to give it a go, but don't expect another Ricochet.

Well not exactly struggling. I enjoy the album but it just hasn't been (I have listened to it 4 times now) as mindblowing as Ricochet is. This means my expectations for Phaedra are lowered and will be more realistic.

billythefish wrote:I remember moving from Poland onto Rubycon via Tangram, and not being that enamoured with Rubycon... it has massively grown on me though, particularly as I have grown older, so if you're like me, you need to give it lots more time...

I give time to all my CDs so we'll see how Rubycon grows on me.

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:11 pm

billythefish wrote:
Hobo wrote:
71 dB wrote:I heard finally Rubycon and I must say I am somewhat disappointed. The music is a bit monotonic (it develops very slowly so there are only few sections within one part). TD is still heavily in the ambient cosmic style of the Pink Years (I haven't heard Phaedra yet) and the pulsing rhythms aren't as sophisticated as on the following albums. Rubycon is dragging. Anyway, it's not bad or anything. The last 6 minutes of part 2 are beautiful. It's just not worth the hype for me. I wonder how Phaedra is...

Ricochet is superior to Rubycon. I feel Rubycon is just a prototype for the latter masterpiece.
If you're struggling with Rubycon, there's a good chance you'll find Phaedra drags a little. Personally, I think it's a timeless masterpiece and it's the album that marks the start of my love for TD. I'd urge you to give it a go, but don't expect another Ricochet.
I remember moving from Poland onto Rubycon via Tangram, and not being that enamoured with Rubycon... it has massively grown on me though, particularly as I have grown older, so if you're like me, you need to give it lots more time...

That's true of me too. I wasn't over enamoured with Rubycon when I first heard it but grew to like it slowly.

timer · Post by **timer** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:00 pm

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:02 pm

Excellent TIM

timer · Post by **timer** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:04 pm

Cheers my friend. Love the Cat !

SydneyFC · Post by **SydneyFC** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:08 pm

Chris Monk wrote:
billythefish wrote:
Hobo wrote: If you're struggling with Rubycon, there's a good chance you'll find Phaedra drags a little. Personally, I think it's a timeless masterpiece and it's the album that marks the start of my love for TD. I'd urge you to give it a go, but don't expect another Ricochet.
I remember moving from Poland onto Rubycon via Tangram, and not being that enamoured with Rubycon... it has massively grown on me though, particularly as I have grown older, so if you're like me, you need to give it lots more time...
That's true of me too. I wasn't over enamoured with Rubycon when I first heard it but grew to like it slowly.

Must admit loved it the first time I heard it. It seems to have a mysterious dark power. Agree that Phaedra does drag a little bit in comparison

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:11 pm

timer wrote:Cheers my friend. Love the Cat !

Its Edgar in his feline pyjamas trying out his leaping on the bed technique

timer · Post by **timer** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:14 pm

epsilon75 wrote:
timer wrote:Cheers my friend. Love the Cat !
Its Edgar in his feline pyjamas trying out his leaping on the bed technique

I could believe that !

Edit : B*gg*r, Im on the rubycon thread and hadn't said how wonderful it is ! Rubycon is wonderful !

SydneyFC · Post by **SydneyFC** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:51 am

yeah the cat is definitely okay

billythefish · Post by **billythefish** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:16 pm

SydneyFC wrote:
Chris Monk wrote:
billythefish wrote: I remember moving from Poland onto Rubycon via Tangram, and not being that enamoured with Rubycon... it has massively grown on me though, particularly as I have grown older, so if you're like me, you need to give it lots more time...
That's true of me too. I wasn't over enamoured with Rubycon when I first heard it but grew to like it slowly.

Must admit loved it the first time I heard it. It seems to have a mysterious dark power. Agree that Phaedra does drag a little bit in comparison

That's interesting. Out of interest, what was the first TD you heard? And how old were you when you first heard Rubycon (if you don't mind me asking!)...

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:07 pm

billythefish wrote:
SydneyFC wrote:
Chris Monk wrote: That's true of me too. I wasn't over enamoured with Rubycon when I first heard it but grew to like it slowly.

Must admit loved it the first time I heard it. It seems to have a mysterious dark power. Agree that Phaedra does drag a little bit in comparison
That's interesting. Out of interest, what was the first TD you heard? And how old were you when you first heard Rubycon (if you don't mind me asking!)...

For me it was Rubycon and I was 15.

alipaul · Post by **alipaul** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:18 am

What software are you using Tim?

Tangerine Dream

Rubycon reviewed