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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:13 pm 
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A forum search revealed that we havn't discussed the "Turn Of The Tides" yet. :?

Of all the Seattle Years releases I like this album most, it's full of great tunes and features some fantastic guitar solos as well as fine melodies. My favourites are "Firetongues", a mind blowing composition, and the stormy "Jungle Journey" (what a rhythm guitar!) that I wish would last for another 6 minutes. "Death Of A Nightingale" is a very emotional piece with a fine saxophone part by Linda Spa and the title track may be one of TD's most daring "fun tracks" with its unusual "poppy" drum beats and the (wordless) female vocals. And then there are two more complicated and longer tracks with "Twilight Brigade" and "Galley Slave's Horizon" (the former featuring some eerie Perica guitar parts, the latter more wodless vocal performances). I even love the original cover with its colourful wheel-like images featuring Edgar's "Coachman's Tales" as liner notes. Edgar should cultivate his writing skills (be it his autobiography or more CD notes), the story is highly metaphorical and full of great images that accompany the music very well. :D

The only track I don't care for is "Midwinter Night", this one is a bit too cheesy for my tastes. And the "Pictures At An Exhibition" version is nothing more than an atmospheric intro that could have been left off the album in my opinion. But these minor complaints don't distract too much from this album's quality. I rate this 8 / 10 and I think it's much better than its reputation among some fans seems to suggest. Too bad this quartet line-up (Edgar & Jerome Froese, Linda Spa & Zlatko Perica) didn't last longer.

My copy of this album doesn't feature "Story Of The Brave", but that's no problem as this one's included on "Dream Encores" as well. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:42 pm 
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I like this album. The nly one which should've been left off is Pictures... I remeber buying this at a time before I had access to the internet and depended on mails From CD services. At the time a lot of their CD's were a tad more expensive than stuff I could buy from a store. It took me a while to like this album but I still dig it out now & again. My two fave tracks are Midwinter Night & Death of a Nightinglale these two seem to belong together and Lindas sax is great.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:46 pm 
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Hi Mr C. I hope your bearing up ok at the moment

Midwinter Night is my favourite track on TOTT so I think we're approaching it from completely different standpoints. I take your point about cheesy but I in fact like cheese so when TD do a slightly cheesy track it still seems to have an element of inocent charm to it

I recently watched this track on youtube and was surprised to see Edgar wearing what looked like a pair of jeans as we've got so used to seeing him in black

Linda Spa looks quite different now and I hardly recognised her !

Getting back to TOTT I find it a bit patchy and think there is a bit too much guitar work on the album which at times beats the synth into submission


Wish I could be a bit more positive about it - Sorry


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:34 am 
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The tracks I really like are Firetongues, Galley Slaves Horizon and Twilight Brigade. The title track is very pleasant. Jungle Journey and Midwinter Night are enjoyable.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:30 am 
I don't like much of it. Horrible production. Some parts reminds me of porno music. The drum sounds in particular are very hard, and to make them "subtle" they just turn down the volume, slightly, which has no positive effect.
Only few good tracks. I can accept it only for being a part of TD's development to where they are now. Edgar once said in an interview that the equipment used on the album was already exhausted at the moment, and they should've moved on earlier.
For me, ToB is much better and fresher.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:49 am 
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HYPERBOREA wrote:
Hi Mr C. I hope your bearing up ok at the moment

Thanks, Hyperborea. I'm OK considering the situation.

@ Pertou:
Porno music? :lol:

"Tyranny Of Beauty" is no bad album either, but for me TOTT is much better, especially following the disappointing "Rockoon" album. I don't have a problem with the hard drum sounds (although TD's recent approach at soft drumming is indeed better). All in all TD tried to incorporate some rock music elements into their sound in the 90's and on this album it works IMHO. TOB is somehow overproduced at times, too much is going on there at once. The melodies on TOTT are much clearer and therefore more enjoyable.

I know that many fans are disappointed by the Seattle Years productions. But from time to time I really enjoy them, there are many fine compositions. I guess we also could discuss the various mixes TD created of many Seattle Years tracks (such as "Firetongues" on DM 1, "Twilight Brigade" on "TimeSquare" ("Mobocaster") and "Jungle Journey" on "What A Blast"). In these 3 cases I do prefer the original TOTT versions. :)


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Desert_Voyager wrote:
The tracks I really like are Firetongues, Galley Slaves Horizon and Twilight Brigade.


that´s it and nothing more. :)

the whole 90s wasn´t really my kind of td-music :(

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Firetongues is the only track I like on the whole CD. This one for me was the damp squid in the TD releases, but since theyve achieved so much with other releases it bears into insignifcance !.


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I must admit i prefer this to TOB............"Galley Slaves Horizon" is my favorite track here but "Firetongues" and TOTT" are great to......not half as bad an album that people think.......all IMHO of course :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:16 pm 
From the cover notes, of the TDI version:

7+7=5

Well, your theory is crazy, but's not crazy to be true


Then I must be mad. 7+7=14. The sum of the digits in 14 is 1+4 = 5, which means the crazy theory is true.

I laughed when some forum member of the old forum, suggested that "Turn Of The Tides" was an anagram for "Den of Utter Sh!t.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:15 pm 
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Pertou wrote:
From the cover notes, of the TDI version:

7+7=5

Well, your theory is crazy, but's not crazy to be true


Then I must be mad. 7+7=14. The sum of the digits in 14 is 1+4 = 5, which means the crazy theory is true.

I laughed when some forum member of the old forum, suggested that "Turn Of The Tides" was an anagram for "Den of Utter Sh!t.


Ouch.......... :shock: :wink: :arrow:

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Pertou wrote:
From the cover notes, of the TDI version:

7+7=5

Well, your theory is crazy, but's not crazy to be true


Then I must be mad. 7+7=14. The sum of the digits in 14 is 1+4 = 5, which means the crazy theory is true.

I laughed when some forum member of the old forum, suggested that "Turn Of The Tides" was an anagram for "Den of Utter Sh!t.


ooh I wouldn't go down the anagram route...you can come up with worse than that.

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I await with bated breath (not) :oops: :arrow:

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I like around half the tracks on this album

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Not one of my favourites I like Firetongues & Jungle Journey cannot get excited about the rest.


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