Edgar Froese on Michael Mann

tangram80 · Post by **tangram80** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:09 am

The "TD radio" track starts off by mentioning the cooperation between TD and Michael Mann since Mann heard the "Thru Metamorphic Rock" track off "Force Majeure". I happened to grab a 2nd hand book "Ocean of Sounds" by David Toop and found the following reflection of Edgar:

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He got involved in our music by listening to a studio record called Force Majeure, which we recorded back in '78. He was listening to a piece called "Metamorphic Rocks" and so he put it into one of those sequences in Thief when they open up the roof on one of those skyscrapers. The sound mixed so well - that's what he said - that he called us and said, "Are you interested in doing the rest?". The thing is about Michael Mann, he's an American guy but he worked for about four years in London so he was very sympathetic with the European way of making films and using cameras. That's why he chose a lot of, what I would call French, British or early German shooting sequences in his movies. Like a man like Ridley Scott, who is known as a great American film maker, but in fact is very much British. He has given a big positive push to the American cinema by using certain European visions."

UNQUOTE

THere you have an early Froesian vision of film directors with whom he cooperated...

24db · Post by **24db** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:58 am

Didn't TD say that Michael Mann wanted to mix their music, so TD said 'off you go'! and several days later Michael hand to admit he couldn't do it and asked the band to finish it?

On a personal not I've never liked Mann's stuff, it's all surface with little emotional content

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:18 pm

24db wrote:Didn't TD say that Michael Mann wanted to mix their music, so TD said 'off you go'! and several days later Michael hand to admit he couldn't do it and asked the band to finish it?

On a personal not I've never liked Mann's stuff, it's all surface with little emotional content

I thought Thief was a superb movie with an excellent sound track t,boot.

Hobo · Post by **Hobo** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:39 pm

epsilon75 wrote:
24db wrote:Didn't TD say that Michael Mann wanted to mix their music, so TD said 'off you go'! and several days later Michael hand to admit he couldn't do it and asked the band to finish it?

On a personal not I've never liked Mann's stuff, it's all surface with little emotional content

I thought Thief was a superb movie with an excellent sound track t,boot.

Manhunter, Heat and The Insider were good too. For all it's flaws, I'm still a big fan of The Keep, as well.

staatsgrenze · Post by **staatsgrenze** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:49 pm

Thief, was and is a really great film, and TD's soundtrack is a real winner here, James Caan puts a stunning performance together with Tuesday Weld, that would fit nicely with "Godfather"........

The soundtrack alone merits one of the band's memorable productions

24db · Post by **24db** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:14 am

Hobo wrote:
epsilon75 wrote:
24db wrote:Didn't TD say that Michael Mann wanted to mix their music, so TD said 'off you go'! and several days later Michael hand to admit he couldn't do it and asked the band to finish it?

On a personal not I've never liked Mann's stuff, it's all surface with little emotional content

I thought Thief was a superb movie with an excellent sound track t,boot.
Manhunter, Heat and The Insider were good too. For all it's flaws, I'm still a big fan of The Keep, as well.

Michael Mann interview: re TD

HK: You're using the music of Tangerine Dream for the film. Why?

MM: Because we have a terrific relationship. I think their work
"Thief" was very successful. This music is very different. This is much
more melodic, there are different influences. We're using Thomas Tallis,
we're using a lot of choirs processed through a vocoder. I've got in my
brain maybe seven or eight hours of their music.

epsilon75 · Post by **epsilon75** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:53 pm

24db wrote:
Hobo wrote:
epsilon75 wrote:
I thought Thief was a superb movie with an excellent sound track t,boot.
Manhunter, Heat and The Insider were good too. For all it's flaws, I'm still a big fan of The Keep, as well.
Michael Mann interview: re TD

HK: You're using the music of Tangerine Dream for the film. Why?

MM: Because we have a terrific relationship. I think their work
"Thief" was very successful. This music is very different. This is much
more melodic, there are different influences. We're using Thomas Tallis,
we're using a lot of choirs processed through a vocoder. I've got in my
brain maybe seven or eight hours of their music.

Im all for seven or eight hours of the Keep unreleased goodies being released in the future

Hobo · Post by **Hobo** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:04 pm

epsilon75 wrote:
24db wrote:
Hobo wrote: Manhunter, Heat and The Insider were good too. For all it's flaws, I'm still a big fan of The Keep, as well.
Michael Mann interview: re TD

HK: You're using the music of Tangerine Dream for the film. Why?

MM: Because we have a terrific relationship. I think their work
"Thief" was very successful. This music is very different. This is much
more melodic, there are different influences. We're using Thomas Tallis,
we're using a lot of choirs processed through a vocoder. I've got in my
brain maybe seven or eight hours of their music.

Im all for seven or eight hours of the Keep unreleased goodies being released in the future

Wonder what odds you'd get on that

Tropylium · Post by **Tropylium** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:33 am

Hobo wrote:
epsilon75 wrote:Im all for seven or eight hours of the Keep unreleased goodies being released in the future
Wonder what odds you'd get on that

How about we start from one and then work it up? 7-8 sound a bit … excessiv. Wouldn't want it to be away from, say, The Soldier, no?

Chris Monk · Post by **Chris Monk** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:20 am

Hobo wrote:
epsilon75 wrote:
24db wrote:Didn't TD say that Michael Mann wanted to mix their music, so TD said 'off you go'! and several days later Michael hand to admit he couldn't do it and asked the band to finish it?

On a personal not I've never liked Mann's stuff, it's all surface with little emotional content

I thought Thief was a superb movie with an excellent sound track t,boot.
Manhunter, Heat and The Insider were good too. For all it's flaws, I'm still a big fan of The Keep, as well.

I'd go along with that. Michael Mann is a bit hit and miss with me. When he's good he's great but some of his films really miss the target IMO.

batman · Post by **batman** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:05 pm

If talking for Micheal Mann, i believe the TD music can be to use in 'Collateral' movie.