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Re-mastered bootleg box ?

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:04 pm
by T4N63R1N3 DR34M
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TANGERINE DREAM: BOOTLEG BOX-VOLUME 1 (7CD-2012 Remastered Re-Issue from NEW MASTER SOURCES - Stock # 1565602) Normally BX07 £41.99 - Ltd New Release Offer BX07 £34.99

This is a Newly Re-Mastered edition of TANGERINE DREAM's 'Bootleg Box - Volume 1', a collection of bootleg recordings made between 1974 & 1976. The set features concerts recorded in Sheffield (1974), London (1975), Croydon (1975), Bilbao (1976) and Berlin (1976).
Unavailable from some years, this Reactive edition of 'Bootleg Box - Vol. 1' has been assembled using NEW SOURCE MASTER TAPES and includes a Lavishly Illustrated Booklet with a New Essay.

Track List - Disc 1 [Sheffield City Hall, 29th October 1974]:
01. Sheffield '74

Track List - Disc 2 [London - Royal Albert Hall, 2nd April 1975]:
01. Royal Albert Hall - Part One

Track List - Disc 3 [London - Royal Albert Hall, 2nd April 1975]:
01. Royal Albert Hall - Part Two
02. Royal Albert Hall - Part Three

Track List - Disc 4 [Croydon - Fairfield Halls, 23rd October 1975]:
01. Croydon - Part One
02. Croydon - Part Two
03. Croydon - Part Three

Track List - Discs 5 [Bilbao - Pabellion De La Casilla 31st January 1976]:
01. Bilbao - Part One

Track List - Discs 6 [Bilbao - Pabellion De La Casilla 31st January 1976]:
01. Bilbao - Part Two
02. Bilbao - Part Three
03. Bilbao - Part Four

Track List - Disc 7 [Berlin - Philharmonie 27th June 1976]:
01. Electronic Rock At The Philharmonics

What are the new master sources I wonder ?

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:22 pm
by sparrow
Anyone who doesn't have this and enjoys early TD should go for this..I'm going to pass as I own the original and can't see how they can improve the already decent sound quality. £35 is a steal.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:00 am
by Patchlead
My money is on these being CD rips, bricked to make them sound louder. I bet they use the RAH disc with 18 mins missing too. :)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:21 pm
by Insvims
Think I will order this. Don't have any of these boxes. Guess the other will be released also then.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:11 pm
by sparrow
There is to be three boxes ....lookin forward to the third box.. 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:34 pm
by hansx
Hmmm, see no added value to this release, if it doesn't have any extra's on it.
That is also my commend on the Esoteric things. To little for me to buy.

Still waiting for real rereleases with many extra's
T

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:37 pm
by har
Right I am defo ordering this...........have almost paid massive amounts to get the original and thus I am very pleased indeed this will be released.

I will let you know how much I enjoy it :D :wink:

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:20 pm
by T4N63R1N3 DR34M
sparrow wrote:There is to be three boxes ....lookin forward to the third box.. 8)
where did you hear this..?

and do you have any more on these "new master sources" ?

:)

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:37 pm
by bigmoog
dont td fans already have thee TT/TL's and the original box sets?


:oops:

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:46 pm
by TDludo
bigmoog wrote:dont td fans already have thee TT/TL's and the original box sets?
Not the original boxes... :?

An important question : is the sound on the original boxes much better than on the Trees ?
Because in this case, I could buy the new boxes (new masters could imply an even better sound)...

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:18 pm
by sparrow
T4N63R1N3 DR34M wrote:
sparrow wrote:There is to be three boxes ....lookin forward to the third box.. 8)
where did you hear this..?

and do you have any more on these "new master sources" ?

:)
From a reliable source who used to be a regular poster here.. :arrow:

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:23 pm
by T4N63R1N3 DR34M
sparrow wrote:
T4N63R1N3 DR34M wrote:
sparrow wrote:There is to be three boxes ....lookin forward to the third box.. 8)
where did you hear this..?

and do you have any more on these "new master sources" ?

:)
From a reliable source who used to be a regular poster here.. :arrow:
8) 8) Presumably they'll be good then. And maybe have the original typos etc corrected.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:24 pm
by bigmoog
sparrow wrote:
T4N63R1N3 DR34M wrote:
sparrow wrote:There is to be three boxes ....lookin forward to the third box.. 8)
where did you hear this..?

and do you have any more on these "new master sources" ?

:)
From a reliable source who used to be a regular poster here.. :arrow:

this is true afaik :arrow:

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:28 pm
by Whoopysnorp
The third & new box might (!) contain the following concerts which were licensed from Esoteric/Cherry Red a while ago (http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/licen ... php?ndx=14) :

Reims - Cathedral Notre Dame - 13th December 1974
TRACK TITLES TBC
Coventry Cathedral - 4th October 1975
TRACK TITLES TBC
York Minster Cathedral - 20th October 1975
TRACK TITLES TBC
Circus-Krone-Bau, Munich - 27th October 1976
TRACK TITLES TBC
Hammersmith Odeon, London - 28th March 1978
TRACK TITLES TBC
Royal Albert Hall London - 7th June 1979 (should be 1976)
TRACK TITLES TBC

Reims 1974 is a no-brainer, however the remaining concerts are mostly mediocre to poor sounding audience recordings (three of them ended up in the inferior sounding Tangerine Leaves series, and I should have put London 1978 in there too). I have mixed feelings about the re-release. As some of you might remember back in 2002/2003 the Tangerine Tree series had just started when TD used parts of the first two sets which made up the Bootleg Box sets, but looking back now it all came too soon. Had they contacted me two or three years later the overall quality and choice of concerts would have been much better. But i'm curious about the "new source master tapes"...apart from a true stereo master of the 1975 BBC recording which seems to have surfaced and the much clearer audience master of Sheffield 74 i have no idea as to how much better the rerelease might sound.

Greetings,
Heiko H.

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:34 pm
by T4N63R1N3 DR34M
Whoopysnorp wrote:The third & new box might (!) contain the following concerts which were licensed from Esoteric/Cherry Red a while ago (http://www.cherryred.co.uk/crzone/licen ... php?ndx=14) :

Reims - Cathedral Notre Dame - 13th December 1974
TRACK TITLES TBC
Coventry Cathedral - 4th October 1975
TRACK TITLES TBC
York Minster Cathedral - 20th October 1975
TRACK TITLES TBC
Circus-Krone-Bau, Munich - 27th October 1976
TRACK TITLES TBC
Hammersmith Odeon, London - 28th March 1978
TRACK TITLES TBC
Royal Albert Hall London - 7th June 1979 (should be 1976)
TRACK TITLES TBC

Reims 1974 is a no-brainer, however the remaining concerts are mostly mediocre to poor sounding audience recordings (three of them ended up in the inferior sounding Tangerine Leaves series, and I should have put London 1978 in there too). I have mixed feelings about the re-release. As some of you might remember back in 2002/2003 the Tangerine Tree series had just started when TD used parts of the first two sets which made up the Bootleg Box sets, but looking back now it all came too soon. Had they contacted me two or three years later the overall quality and choice of concerts would have been much better. But i'm curious about the "new source master tapes"...apart from a true stereo master of the 1975 BBC recording which seems to have surfaced and the much clearer audience master of Sheffield 74 i have no idea as to how much better the rerelease might sound.

Greetings,
Heiko H.
Hmm. Very curious indeed. Certainly, no one's better placed to know for sure than Whoopy. Except for whoever claims to have better master sources of course. :wink: