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Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:53 am
by EricDraven
I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:33 am
by epsilon75
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
I think only 750 copies came numbered and signed Eric :arrow:

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 12:16 pm
by ngc891
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?

My version has the white squares as well Eric

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:48 pm
by jimi
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
My copy is fine, yours might be a dodgy one :shock:

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:37 pm
by epsilon75
jimi wrote:
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
My copy is fine, yours might be a dodgy one :shock:
Mines OK too i checked earlier :arrow:

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:08 pm
by sparrow
My copy also has the white squares they dissapear sometimes but I agree it is a bit annoying. My copy is numbered and signed

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:36 pm
by 24db
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
I've tried the DVD on various systems and too be honest (IMHO) I can barely see them...perhaps it's a problem with very large TVs, or ones where you can't vary the screen ratio and remove the black bars completely? Just a guess. Here's what the squares look like (a greatly enlarged section of a screen grab):

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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:54 pm
by DSJR
I know things are different these days, but I used to sell (B&O & Panasonic) TV's along with the specialist audio that was my "thang."

Even on B&O, who quality control their products almost out of existance, the geometry could sometimes vary a little, just enough to just show or just hide these bars at the top of the picture. The Panasonics were much "looser" in their setup and the height and width could vary quite a bit, but still be in proportion.

I'm not sure modern TV screens allow height and width adjustment as computer monitors do. One of the later Star Wars films on DVD had a superb picture alignment section in one of the menu's...

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:57 pm
by Pertou
the dvd is too good, for me to get annoyed by the five dots.... :roll:

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:58 pm
by 24db
DSJR wrote:I know things are different these days, but I used to sell (B&O & Panasonic) TV's along with the specialist audio that was my "thang."

Even on B&O, who quality control their products almost out of existance, the geometry could sometimes vary a little, just enough to just show or just hide these bars at the top of the picture. The Panasonics were much "looser" in their setup and the height and width could vary quite a bit, but still be in proportion.

I'm not sure modern TV screens allow height and width adjustment as computer monitors do. One of the later Star Wars films on DVD had a superb picture alignment section in one of the menu's...
My Toshiba CRT TV allows user height and width adjustment, as well as about 5 or 6 preset ratios.

Geometries have gone to pot though, the last Sony TV I had a wonky horizontal...which even with picture tilt still looked P****d ;)

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:59 pm
by 24db
Pertou wrote:the dvd is too good, for me to get annoyed by the five dots.... :roll:
I kind of agree Jacob, although it's a bit like the stain on the carpet...once you know about it, you'll always look for it ;)
I'm like that with spool change marks at the cinema :D

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:01 pm
by MRBLUE
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
Mine is the same as yours Eric - NOT numbered and the sound quality, well, plain DREADFUL - compared to Tempodrome, this is pathetic!

Not happy at all! :twisted:

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:01 pm
by Pertou
24db wrote:
Pertou wrote:the dvd is too good, for me to get annoyed by the five dots.... :roll:
I kind of agree Jacob, although it's a bit like the stain on the carpet...onve you know about it, you'll always look for it ;)
I'm like that with spool change marks at the cinema :D
It's personal thing I guess, but I have seen far worse flaws on TD dvds.

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:08 pm
by 24db
MRBLUE wrote:
EricDraven wrote:I don't know if this has been addressed elsewhere but, does anyone know what the 5 small pulsating squares at the top of the picture just below the black bar are? Most annoying! This is on the limited 2dvd version [which I thought was supposed to be numbered, as mine wasn't]:x Are all of them this way?
Mine is the same as yours Eric - NOT numbered and the sound quality, well, plain DREADFUL - compared to Tempodrome, this is pathetic!

Not happy at all! :twisted:
I know it's annoying when things aren't as good as we hoped for, but....we're lucky to have anything from that gig. IMHO the soundtrack comes from 2 or 3 sources...including the fan recording, so it's no great surprise that the sound isn't perfect. However it's still a great mento from one of TD's best gigs.

Re: Phaedra 35th anniversary dvd question

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:10 pm
by Pertou
24db wrote: IMHO the soundtrack comes from 2 or 3 sources...including athe fan recording, so it's no great surprise that the sound isn't perfect. However it's still a great mento from one of TD's best gigs.
Can you hear a cigarette being lit from a zippo lighter? cool! :D