OKAY! OKAY! OKAY!
After getting a lot of friendly pms and encoruragement in the forum I decided to post again.
But I don´t want to be part of a forum where people attack each other and get agressive. We are all here for the music and to talk about music and that should be in a friendly and peacefully way. Private differences should be discussed outside the forum. If that´s not the way I will leave this forum definitely.
And now back to the trees:
I absolutely understand Edgar and Heiko if they don´t want the trees to exist any longer. I think they have several reasons for that. One fact is the legal problem. Heiko has signed for some music only to use it for private. I know in germany you have to pay a lot of money for TV or radio stations if you want to get a copy of a broadcast. You have to sign that you only use it for private. Another fact is that some people sold the trees (when you print the covers on a professional printer it looks like a real CD) for high prices in their shops or somewhere else. And I think Edgar wanted to release most of this music officially like in the Bootleg Box or Bootmoon series but there is so much of it that I think he never will release it all. And then a fact for Heiko was that it took all his spare time to burn this millions of CDRs and I think nobody want to do the job he did.
But...
The other side of the coin is now there are some fans who really like the music of the concerts and did not had the chance to get them when they were available. An example I mentioned in another post is that I saw some of the trees for over 30 dollars!!! on ebay some time ago. I watched them and one guy bought two of them (I remember it was Reims 1974 and Sydney 1982). I asked that guy why he will pay so much money for CDRs which were given for free some years before and he answered that he had no chance to get this CDrs for free now and the only way would be some very dubios torrent sites. Isn´t that sad?
As a real TD fan I have an interest having all the trees and leaves. On the one hand I am a collector. As a collector I want to get all stuff from TD I can get, that means bootlegs, official releases (I have up to ten different pressing from the same record) and everything that is available. If I know that there is some music I never can get I will stop collecting because it don´t make any sense to me. On the other hand I am a real fan who enjoys the music very very very much!!! And a lots of other people also do so.
In my opinion it is absolutely correct that these discs should not be sold to the masses. I know that Heiko gave these discs to everybody who asked for it. But when there are a few fans who have only interest in getting some more real Tangerine Dream music for only private use... I think there is nothing wrong with it. In my circle of friends there is no TD fan so I only use this music for myself (and my wife and my kids who are the ones that have to hear this music all day...)
And I think that Edgar would have no problem with it if fans love to hear his music if they don´t make any profit with it. And what is difference between 500 fans having all trees and leaves (for example) and there are now 50 who had not the chance to get them and would have them now? We are all fans with the same hobby. Or is it a solution that this 50 fans have to load this music illegaly on torrent sites or pay high prices on ebay?
I respect very much that some fans are loyal to TD and Edgar and say that this should not be discussed anymore but I am very very sure that a lot of these fans (if they don´t had the chance to get these CDRs some years ago) would do anything now to get them. And if you see a lot of TD fans socially I think it would be no problem. But I only met some of them some years ago after concerts in germany and have no private contact to anybody. But I know all people I met there were really nice people and I hope to see some of them in the Royal Albert Hall in April.
One thing at last: Wouldn´t it be correct that this loyal fans destroy all their bootlegs and leaves and trees? Nobody does and so I hope everybody understands my message. The Tangerine Tree is the greatest fan project that ever people did for a band (as a learned graphic designer I know that the covers are really phenomenal). And there is so much work in it that if some few fans ask for it because they enjoy the music...
please give them the chance to listen to it. We are all the same!
And if Edgar would release them all officially one day... I am sure that all fans would buy also buy them.